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Anarchism and Teaching

February 12, 2012

There are lots of anarchists out there on the internets. And from time to time I come across anarchist sentiments in places like Indiscriminate Dust, Pied Cow, The Crow’s Eye, and Who is IOZ?

My current job teaching bona fide criminals, and my past two years teaching many students who behaved in the same ways and appeared to be on the same criminal track—these experiences raise some questions about anarchism. Anarchists may well have good answers ready, so I don’t mean these as some vacuous gotchas, like those that believers so often aim at us atheists. Or those that us atheists so often aim at believers. Instead, I mean these as honest questions, and would be happy to hear answers.

Is there some serious projection being done by anarchists? Are folks considering their own habits, desires, values, etc.; and the roles that government does and does not play in their own lives; and concluding from this that we’d all be better off without government—but failing to adequately consider the full diversity of people being governed? Are violent criminals and street thugs, for example, out of sight and out of mind?

A couple qualifications are immediately necessary. I readily grant that there is a ton of unreasonable fear of violent crime, and that such fear can be easily exploited by people in power. I also readily grant, more parenthetically, that anarchism can draw on very important considerations of what government does to directly serve corporate interests, to wage war, etc.—and I have no intention of contesting or minimizing such things.

I’m just thinking about how violent crime is, in fact, a reality. And some violent criminals can only be stopped by force. And I’m glad that I don’t have to try to marshal that force myself.

I’m very grateful for the armed security guard at my school. And given the hell that the inner city can be, I’m very grateful for the armed police, and perhaps even the armed prison guards, who help to at least keep it contained in the inner city. (Not that letting it rage there is a good thing, obviously…)

I have seen up close and personal, and for a sustained period of time, a ghetto subculture that places a premium on toughness, violence, and taking what you want; and seldom seems to be given any pause by considerations like empathy, pity, or remorse. I’ve seen a steady stream of theft, robbery, and intimidation. I’ve heard and seen students’ readiness to fight at the slightest provocation, and to mercilessly beat a fallen opponent if given the chance. I’ve heard excited and admiring talk about countless shootings.

Near the beginning of this school year, two college students were walking in a park in my city when two young men robbed them, made them kneel down, and shot them both in the head. The next day three of my students were talking about this—bragging and comparing notes about how they would have done the same.

Can anarchism deal with such realities?

Or might anarchism be under some charitable illusion that cold-blooded violence doesn’t really exist? That the injustices and oppressions and privations of the current social order are wholly responsible for inner city violence, perhaps?

Such systemic issues play an enormous role, no doubt. There is an unbroken chain of oppression and discrimination stretching back to kidnapping and chattel slavery. And those born into urban poverty today have the deck stacked against them—all the more if they are also born into brown skin.

But even seeing these realities clearly, and even assigning most or all fault or blame to those in power rather than those in poverty—present realities still are what they are. And part of the present reality is cold-blooded violence. There are hardened killers in the world, and especially on the streets of the ghetto. These folks didn’t create the war zones they were raised in, and in that sense they are clearly not to blame. But they have nonetheless become what they have become.

And they’re not prepared to tend your community garden. They are prepared to shoot you and take your stereo.

14 Comments
  1. I read you leave it to others to take responsibility for your safety.

    This may offer you some help. Rory is the top 1%. Highly trained, highly erudite and intelligent.

    Meditations on Violence and Facing Violence

    http://www.amazon.com/Rory-Miller/e/B002M54CNW

  2. Hilarious. From your cocoon, you have decided that the world is chock-full of Horrible Violent Criminals Meaning To Do You Harm.

    I take it you’ve never lived among those you assume to be said HVCMTDYH. Probably because they scare you so much!

    If you weren’t so busy being afraid of Child Molesters Trying To Break Into Your Child’s School To Rape Your Children, you might stop to notice that the real threat comes from those whose hierarchical power structure has them well atop you, using you as a CopperTop Battery just like Neo learned in The Matrix.

    I guess your creature comforts will have to satisfy you when you confront the hypocrisy of your moral and ethical dilemmas. Maybe they already do.

    In any case, First Class Takedown of the straw-man anarchists you created out of that bale of dried grass. First Class indeed.

  3. At the risk of feeding a troll, may I ask whether you read the post, Karl? I have no children in school; I teach in a school. So yes, for the majority of my waking hours for the past two and a half years, I have indeed lived among the violent individuals I describe, as well as the broader population of which they constitute only a part – as I’ve been careful to point out quite often.

    The question, Karl, is whether you have ever lived in any such proximity. I’m guessing not. Because you have all the certainty and righteous indignation that I once did. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    A second question is what I’m failing to take into account, i.e. how exactly I’m “straw-manning,” if you must make it combative. If you would have read the post before commenting, another benefit would have been noticing my solicitation of just such information. Please do share.

  4. cordarei permalink

    Hi, you raise a difficult question in an interesting way, and it gave me at least a lot to think about, so thanks. (I came over from The Crow’s Eye, by the way).

    I had a lot of reactions to your post, but I think I can summarize by saying I don’t think there is any answer. No matter what kind of society or culture or whatever you imagine, I think there will always be circumstances such that some individuals develop little or no compunction about hurting others. It’s a difficult problem with probably no perfect solution.

    I would say, though, that I am not convinced that our current system has any good answer either. How much can we say about what the true effect of the police and legal system is on violence versus the costs, not just monetary but in police brutality, racial profiling and persecution of minorities, chilling effects on freedom and increasing militarization of the police and so on? It is certainly hard to argue that our police have no effect in reducing violence; on the other hand, I think it would be disingenuous to argue that the police don’t cause some violence in and of themselves. Is the net effect to reduce violence or increase it? I would bet on it reducing violence, but the question is how much.

    Anyway, as far as I can tell there is no one anarchist vision; everyone has their own way of thinking about these things. I think it’s fair to say, though, that any real anarchist society would be quite different than our own, and thinking of it as if our police and laws and government simply disappeared suddenly is unhelpful at best.

    As you say, to some extent (unknown but possible large) the way our society works creates this kind of violence. One attraction of anarchism is that it allows us to consider fundamentally changing society, and to imagine how that might improve certain aspects of the status quo. Everything after that is essentially a problem of practicality.

    Sorry for the long comment.

    - Joseph

  5. Matt permalink

    A warning: I’m going to give your post (and how I’m reading you) a pretty good ripping, I’ll try not to pull any cheap ones:

    First, this might seem like semantics, but I think it far from it: “government” and “the state” are quite different… and, as an anarchist, I’m not troubled by the idea of government, I am troubled by the state.

    Most of what you’ve written strikes me as problematic (you come off like a bit of an ass who doesn’t understand how he benefits materially from the theft, oppression, and violence that is global trade and capital… or at least doesn’t understand the relative scales of violence (hint: the poor aren’t the problem): “I have seen up close and personal, and for a sustained period of time, a ghetto subculture that places a premium on toughness, violence, and taking what you want; and seldom seems to be given any pause by considerations like empathy, pity, or remorse. I’ve seen a steady stream of theft, robbery, and intimidation”… you can exchange “ghetto sub-culture” for “industrial capitalism”, “men”, or “the USA” and not skip a beat), but I’ll focus here:

    “Or might anarchism be under some charitable illusion that cold-blooded violence doesn’t really exist? That the injustices and oppressions and privations of the current social order are wholly responsible for inner city violence, perhaps? Can Anarchism deal with such realities?

    For your first question, my answer is yes. Cold-blooded violence, I would argue, isn’t a real societal problem, to quote Primo Levi: “Monsters exist, but they are too few in numbers to be truly dangerous. More dangerous are…the functionaries ready to believe and act without asking questions.” And, to pronounce the very obvious, it is not as if anarchists envision a world in which sociopaths operate carte blanche… that’s preposterous (and probably the type of straw man Karl points to).

    For the second, your focus is unnecessarily focused on the inner-city, for starters. If you’re really asking if privations and oppression are the “reason” for crime rates in urban areas… that’s sort of an embarrassing question, no? The wealthy in America benefit from all sorts of organized violence and the threat of violence (see everywhere the US military operates… so everywhere).

    Keep this in mind: the crimes that the wealthy commit against the poor are generally not classified as crimes at all — think of your own examples, I expect you’ll have no problem. Violence, dominance, and oppression that flow down the hierarchy are quite fine and natural. Violence and crime that flow the wrong way… towards the powerful… that’s a grave offense.

  6. Hi Ivan,

    First, thanks very much for mentioning Pied Cow Blog. I’ve very grateful.

    Second, I don’t much disagree with what you say. I think it’s either naive or sophomoric to think that a gendarmerie isn’t a necessity in today’s society.

    But saying that the gendarmerie is a necessity doesn’t negate the point that we live under a government that is, for all practical purposes, unanswerable to its governed, and that instead a class of elites rule not only this polity but rule most of the rest of the world as well – for the primary purpose of enhancing those elites’ wealth and power.

    I have no problem with the proposition that society has every right to expect that anti-social behavior needs to be met with appropriate deterrence and sanctions when necessary.

    By the way, perhaps I’m splitting hairs but I’m not an anarchist. I don’t think that political categories are meaningful distinctions. For more on that topic I invite you to read this Pied Cow Partisan, here: http://piedcow.blogspot.com/2012/02/pied-cow-partisan.html

    Thanks again for mentioning the blog.

  7. Sorry, bubba. But I do not believe a word you say, because your ironic attempts at satire lack comedy AND irony, and because your writing is …well… pretentious.

    Teaching at a school doesn’t equate to living among the Horribly Violent Criminals you fear. School is an artificial environment — you should recognize this. And it’s not the HVCs’ home, is it?

    Straw man ID’d. I’ll accept your apology now. Or later. Don’t really care, actually.

    And yes, I did read the entry. That’s how I learned it’s not satiric, ironic or funny and is full of Serious Concern About Things That Concern You.

    And you call ME troll? I cackle with glee.

  8. I don’t suppose there’s an Anarchism for Dummies out there…

    Nice post and thread. I too came over from the great Jack Crow’s.

  9. Hey Ivan,

    Like Pied Cow said, thanks for mentioning me! I think what you’re doing in this post is looking at the serious problems engendered by hierarchical systems – or possibly just human nature, from your perspective – and asking: how would an instant transition to anarchism fix any of this? Well, it wouldn’t. Anarchism doesn’t deal well with violent thugs, for instance, and anybody who tells you that it does is a starry-eyed idealist. However, neither does statism! As you’ve noticed, your ability as a teacher – and society’s ability in general – to deal with these kind of problems is, ahem, limited.

    I’ve got a post on this, if you’re interested: http://indiscriminatedust.blogspot.com/2011/08/anarchist-utopia-and-why-we-dont-need.html

  10. Pied Cow and Philboyd, it was my pleasure.

    Thanks to everyone weighing in here—I really appreciate it. You’ve given me some very good things to consider.

    Matt, I truly don’t mean to downplay the horrors of our current system. Sure, you may well have things to teach me in this area—but I know the basic outlines, at least. My point was only that Levi’s monsters do, in fact, exist, and are, in fact, dangerous. Those I work with daily happen to be in the inner-city. There are others elsewhere, no doubt.

    I know that anarchism can tackle Nazism and Levi’s functionaries. That’s one of its strong suits. My question was whether it can also tackle street thugs. And it sounds like folks more knowledgeable than I are answering, Meh, not really. Not that this refutes anarchism or anything. It’s just one point worth considering.

    And Karl, oh dear, sweet Karl… So I am both a “bubba” and pretentious? You’re covering all your bases, I guess. Sort of like your claim that my irony lacks irony. Well, Occam and I suggest that it might not be irony.

  11. “Can anarchism deal with such realities?”

    Can the state? The existence of a city police force obviously didn’t prevent the murder of those college kids. I’d say that people who believe in the necessity of the state are often under charitable illusions of their own about the effectiveness of the police in preventing crime.

    I agree with you, though, that the problem isn’t entirely systemic and that there will probably always be thugs around. But I think a better solution would be along the lines of your school security guard example. The security guard is there to protect the people in the school, and he works directly for the school, as opposed to government cops, who work for politicians (directly, and indirectly for the cluster of business interests that control the city or town) and have little to no accountability to the people they’re supposedly serving and protecting (and who are paying their salaries, too, by the way, without any choice in the matter).

  12. “But even seeing these realities clearly, and even assigning most or all fault or blame to those in power rather than those in poverty—present realities still are what they are. And part of the present reality is cold-blooded violence. There are hardened killers in the world, and especially on the streets of the ghetto. These folks didn’t create the war zones they were raised in, and in that sense they are clearly not to blame. But they have nonetheless become what they have become.

    And they’re not prepared to tend your community garden. They are prepared to shoot you and take your stereo.”

    Would they shoot me and take my stereo if they had enough food to eat and a decent place to live? If their loved ones were among them?

  13. Richard, some surely do.

  14. Dillon permalink

    “Can Anarchism deal with such realities?” you ask…
    Well, what I think you are asking is whether or not without police or any other sort of “law enforcement”, would society be able to fend against violent crime, etc.? My question is, do you believe people would take justice into their own hands? For example, if there is a gang threatening to take over a community, don’t you believe the community would know there was nobody that they would have to call upon and wait for to take care of this issue and they would have no choice but to defend themselves, their family, and their friends? I believe a community would be able to band together and take justice into their own hands…

    I believe in today’s system a lot of this fear of protecting one’s self is brought upon the constant reminder that there are trained people with guns that take just three numbers to reach that will come in just under 15 minutes to stop a situation from escalating, and you are not as powerful and capable to take care of the situation as them. A lot of the time, this fear results in death… The police do not make it in time, and the belief that you are not capable ends up a lot worse then it could have.

    By now, I think we know right from wrong, and I’m pretty sure communities would be able to agree upon rules and regulations in an anarchist society… There would just be no politicians making the rules and us getting absolutely no say what-so-ever, a lot of the time ending in flawed laws that result in massive protest from the citizens. If somebody does not follow these rules and regulations (which would be made off of common sense) The community can agree upon a punishment. That is Anarchy. Working together as a community to run society and protect one and other. Some believe it can be done, others don’t Do you? If so, then yes, an anarchist society can and would deal with such issues, except the decisions would be decided by the people, not some higher power…

    Maybe I am wrong. Maybe my perspective of anarchy is very flawed? I’m not too sure. PLEASE correct me if I am wrong!

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