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Idiots Who Like Arguing

October 10, 2012

The infamous Tucker Max has actually said some intelligent things:

“I like arguing and everyone says I’m good at it.”

Of all reasons to go to law school, this is the worst by a large margin. Know who else likes arguing? Sports talk radio hosts, cable news talking heads and teenaged girls—i.e., idiots. If you like to argue just for the sake of being contentious, you shouldn’t pick a job based on this unresolved emotional issue of yours, you should get counseling for it.

If you like arguing for the intellectual challenges it can present, that’s an understandable and reasonable position. Everyone likes a healthy, intelligent debate right? Well, understand that being a lawyer has almost nothing to do with arguing in the conventional sense, and very few lawyers ever engage in anything resembling “arguments” in their commonly understood form. You aren’t going to be sitting around a fine mahogany desk sipping scotch with your colleagues discussing the finer points of the First Amendment; you’re going to be crammed in a lifeless cubicle forced to crank out last-minute memos about the tax implications for a non-profit organization trying to lease office space to a for-profit organization (if this gets your juices flowing, maybe the law is for you after all).

You won’t even be having fun discussions in law school. In law school, the people who want to “argue” a lot are called “gunners” and are reviled by everyone, even the professors. Make no mistake about it: Law school is not a bastion of intellectual discourse. It is a fucking TRADE SCHOOL. You are all there to be trained to think and act exactly the same way as everyone else in the profession, so you can then be a drone in the legal system. No one is interested in your opinion. The only one of those that matters is the one expressed, with a capital “O”, by the judge(s) in whatever case you are currently reading.

Beyond that, to be genuinely good at legal “arguing,” you must be dispassionate, reasonable and smart. I have never met a person who was any of those things who also said they were going to law school because other people told them they were good at arguing. It indicates only the shallowest understanding of the law and pathetically sloppy critical-thinking skills. If arguing is really why you want to go to law school, save your money and start a blog about American politics where you can shout into the echo chamber of imbeciles all you want without bothering anyone smart who has shit to do.

From → Law, Quotes

6 Comments
  1. Reblogged this on SOULMATE.

  2. Illych permalink

    Well said! And remember…if you don’t know or can’t tell who the gunner is, it’s probably you.

  3. Pup Tentacle permalink

    Your ignorance of lawyering is almost funny; your attempted satire falls flat; your passive-aggressive self-inflation-through-other-denigration never even left the ground.

    I suppose you imagine that fake-intellectual crippled snark makes you a superior human in some way. So hurry now, and pat your own back, but don’t dislocate the shoulder of that pat-happy arm.

  4. Pup Tentacle, how would you compare my failures of lawyering knowledge, satire, intellect, pride, etc. to your failure to notice quote attribution?

  5. Illych permalink

    Hey Ivan, I think your article about idiots who like to argue attracted an idiot who likes to argue.

  6. “anyone smart who has shit to do” – I hope that you don’t include the movers and shakers of politics in this category, Ivan.

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